Tuesday, September 25, 2007

Reaping the Sowing

There was this party I once knew....People change. They don't change but they reveal. In time they reveal what they really are. It's an old story.

Well, this party, it was really somethin', lookin' back on it. It was planning somethin'. Well, somethin' happened all right. People can really get mad when they get mad.

The ambulance guys, they say, "What the f*ck happened here?"
I say, "Some guys been up to reapin' what they been sowin', that's what."

They say, "The f**kers been sowing some heavy kinda shit."


David Lynch's Inland Empire


OPERATIVES
Jack Abramoff, Bush Pioneer and Republican lobbyist, pleaded guilty to two counts of fraud in connection with Suncruz casino boats in January 2006. He also pleaded guilty to two additional fraud counts and tax evasion in connection with lobbying for Native American tribes in 2006.
Alan Fabian was the co-chair of Mitt Romney’s national finance committee and a prominent Republican donor who gave 100,000+ to the RNC and the Bush inauguration. In August 2007 he was indicted for allegedly making $32 million in false purchases of computer equipment to pay for his lavish spending habits.
Kyle "Dusty" Foggo, the former #3 official at the CIA, was indicted by a Grand Jury on corruption charges in connection with his campaign contributions to Republican members of Congress and resulting federal contracts.
Robert Kjellander, Bush Pioneer and RNC treasurer, was subpoenaed by federal prosecutors in August 2005 as part of a probe investigating corruption at the Illinois Teacher’s Retirement Systems, a state run teacher’s pension fund. The subpoena specifically sought records relating to Kjellander’s receipt of $4.5 million in fees from the Carlyle group, for helping to land the business with the pension fund.
Bernie Kerik - Federal prosecutors in New York have informed Kerik that he is a ‘target’ of a criminal investigation into possible tax problems, illegal wiretapping and making false statements in an FBI questionnaire connected to Kerik's nomination. In addition, a Daily News investigation revealed that Kerik accepted cash and gifts from Interstate Industrial, an allegedly mobbed-up construction company.
Michael Mixon, major NRCC donor, was indicted on charges of fraud and funding terrorism.
Thomas Noe, Bush Pioneer, pleaded guilty in May 2006 on charges of money laundering in connection to his political fund raising. He was also the key figure in the Ohio "Coingate" scandal.
Ralph Reed, Bush Pioneer (2000), Christian Right wing nut, and prominent Republican lobbyist, is being investigated because of a $4 million payment that Abramoff made to Reed.
James Tobin, former NRCC, RNC and Bush-Cheney ’04 staffer was convicted in December 2005 for his role in a plot to stop people from voting in New Hampshire in 2002.
Brent Wilkes, George W. Bush's finance co-chairman in California, was indicted in February 2007 by a Grand Jury on corruption charges in connection with his campaign contributions to Republican members of Congress and resulting federal contracts.
Sam and Charles Wyly, top Bush fund raisers from Texas, are under investigation for tax evasion by federal and state agencies. The Billionaire Bush patrons are accused of setting up offshore trusts on the Island of Man, a noted tax shelter in the Irish Sea, in an attempt to evade paying taxes on stock options.

SENATE
Former Sen. Conrad Burns was the largest recipient of Abramoff-related money in the U.S. Senate, and made calls urging the Department of Interior to award federal grants to an Abramoff client. That effort failed and Burns later inserted an earmark directing the grant in an appropriations bill.
Soon to be former Sen. Larry Craig, stall stalker, pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct in incident where police report documented conduct in a Minneapolis airport restroom. Craig also returned $43,500 in campaign contributions received from Brent Wilkes and his business associates after an Idaho paper reported that he sponsored an amendment to earmark a $3 million contract to Wilkes’ company.
Pete Domenici - In April 2007, the Senate confirmed that the Senate Ethics Committee was investigating Sen. Domenici’s role in phone calls he made about ongoing investigations into Democratic officials shortly before the 2006 election.
Bill Frist - The Securities and Exchange Commission in investigating whether Frist, the former Senate Majority Leader engaged in insider trading, selling off holdings in HCA immediately before its value plummeted. Frist maintained that his holdings were in a blind trust, but the Senate frequently provided Frist with information on his holdings and Frist directed the sale of the stock. At the time of the sale, Frist’s brother was on HCA’s Board of Directors.
Mel Martinez - A FEC audit found the Martinez campaign failed to properly disclose $162,000 in contributions.
Lisa Murkowski - A complaint filed with Senate Ethics Committee alleges that Sen. Murkowski received property from an Alaska real estate developer at a price well below market value.
Sen. Ted Stevens home in Alaska was raided in July 2007 by the FBI and IRS looking for evidence in connection with an investigation of a remodeling project conducted by VECO.
Sen. David Vitter acknowledged committing a "very serious sin" after his number appeared five times in the records of what federal authorities say was a Washington call-girl operation

HOUSE
Ken Calvert - A Grand Jury issued a report which said that Rep. Calvert received an illegal no-bid contract for sale of 4 acres of public land in California.
Former Rep. Tom DeLay resigned from Congress after being admonished by the ethics four times, being indicted for money laundering in Texas, and revelations showing numerous controversial ties to Jack Abramoff.
John Doolittle - In April 2007, the FBI raided Rep. Doolittle’s home in its investigation into ties between Doolittle and Jack Abramoff.
Tom Feeney - The U.S. House said that Rep. Feeney violated House rules by accepting a trip to Scotland. Feeney was required to pay the cost of the trip to the Treasury. He was later questioned by the FBI in the investigation into lobbying activities of Jack Abramoff.
Mark Foley - Former Rep. Foley resigned in September 2006 after the FBI and House Ethics Committee opened investigations into allegations that he sent suggestive emails and instant messages to teenaged current and former House pages.
Former Rep. Katherine Harris accepted $32,000 in illegal contributions from MZM Inc.’s President Mitchell Wade. She then requested tens of millions in earmarks that would benefit Wade. Wade later pleaded guilty to making illegal campaign contributions, in addition to conspiracy, corruption and election fraud. Harris maintained that she did not know the contributions were illegal and lost her race for Senate in 2006.
Patrick McHenry - A campaign worker for Rep. McHenry has been indicted for voter fraud in North Carolina.
Gary Miller - The FBI is investigating land deals in which Rep. Miller made an estimated $10 million.
Former Rep. Bob Ney was sentenced to 30 months in prison for corruption after pleading guilty to conspiracy and filing false financial disclosures.
Rick Renzi - In April 2007, the FBI raided an insurance company tied to Rep. Renzi. As a result of the raid, Renzi resigned from the House Intelligence Committee and will not seek re-election.
Don Sherwood - In September 2004, Washington, D.C. police responded to a 911 call placed by Cynthia Ore, 29, who said she had locked herself in the bathroom of Rep. Sherwood’s apartment after he began choking her while giving her a back rub. Ms. Ore later filed a lawsuit alleging Rep. Sherwood "repeatedly and violently physically assaulted and abused" her during a five-year affair that ended in September 2004.
Don Young - Federal officials are investigating a number of allegations against Young, including his ties to Veco, an Alaska company whose CEO pleaded guilty to bribery, as well as contributions connected to a Florida highway and a transportation measure benefiting a Wisconsin trucking company.
Curt Weldon - In September 2006, the FBI raided the homes of Rep. Curt Weldon's daughter and one of his closest political supporters as part of an investigation into whether the veteran Republican congressman used his influence to benefit himself and his daughter's lobbying firm, according to sources familiar with the investigation.


BUSH ADMINISTRATION
Claude Allen, who had been Bush's domestic policy adviser, pleaded guilty to theft in making phony returns at discount department stores while working at the White House. He was sentenced to two years of supervised probation and fined $500.
Robert E. Coughlin II resigned as deputy chief of staff in the Criminal Division of the Justice Department after "a federal task force investigating the activities of disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff," began probing whether Coughlin traded favors with an Abramoff colleague.
Lurita Doan, head of the General Services Administration, attended a luncheon at the agency earlier this year with other top GSA political appointees at which Scott Jennings, a top Rove aide, gave a PowerPoint demonstration on how to help Republican candidates in 2008. A congressional committee is investigating whether the remarks violated a federal law that restricts executive-branch employees from using their positions for political purposes.”
Brian Doyle pleaded no contest to sending sexually explicit Internet messages to someone he thought was a 14-year-old girl. Doyle was sentenced earlier this month to five years in prison.
Frank Figueroa, former head of the Tampa office of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, pleaded no contest to charges of exposure of sexual organs and disorderly conduct. He was accused of exposing himself in front of a teenage girl at an Orlando mall.
Former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales is under investigation by the Justice Department inspector general over whether he "gave false or misleading testimony to Congress, including whether he lied under oath about warrantless surveillance and the firings of nine U.S. attorneys."
Steven Griles pleaded guilty to lying to a Senate committee in a hearing into the Abramoff scandal.
Eric Keroack, Bush's choice to oversee the federal family planning program, resigned from the post suddenly last month after the Massachusetts Medicaid office launched an investigation into his private practice.
Donald W. Keyser was sentenced to a year in prison for "mishandling classified documents and concealing his relationship with a female intelligence officer from Taiwan." Keyser had been the second-ranking official in the State Department's Bureau of East Asian and Pacific Affairs before retiring in 2004.
Scooter Libby was convicted of obstruction of justice and perjury in connection with the CIA leak investigation.
Julie MacDonald, a deputy assistant secretary at the Interior Department resigned "about a week before a House committee was set to hold hearings on political interference with biologists," and "a month after the department's inspector general issued a stinging report that said she violated federal rules by giving industry lobbyists internal agency documents and rode roughshod over agency scientists."
Susan Ralston, top aide to White House strategist Karl Rove "resigned after disclosures that she accepted gifts and passed information to now-convicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff.
David Safavian, former chief of staff for the General Services Administration, was sentenced to 18 months in prison on "obstruction and concealment charges for lying to investigators about his relationship with [Jack] Abramoff."
Robert T. Schofield “pleaded guilty to accepting at least $600,000 in bribes to provide fraudulent citizenship documents to hundreds of Asian immigrants.”
Tom Scully "was the front man for the Medicare and Medicaid programs through December 2003," before he resigned from CMS after allegedly withholding data from congress on the cost of the new Medicare law. Federal investigators said Scully should repay seven months of his salary for the violation.
Theresa Shaw stepped down amid "growing criticism that the agency has been lax in overseeing the government's $68 billion student-loan program." "The department's inspector general, John Higgens, is looking into possible conflicts of interest involving department employees and lenders. The inquiry follows an investigation by New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo that has unearthed widespread payments by lenders to schools and aid officials responsible for referring students to lenders.
Roger Stillwell, a former Interior Department official, was sentenced to two years on probation in January after pleading guilty to a misdemeanor charge for not reporting hundreds of dollars worth of sports and concert tickets he received from Abramoff.
Randall Tobias resigned after a madam facing federal prostitution charges named Tobias as a client of an escort business that specialized in "sexual fantasy."
Mark Dennis Zachares pleaded guilty "to conspiracy to defraud the public by steering potential clients and inside government information to disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff in return for cash, gifts and the promise of a high-paying job on K Street." Zachares "admitted to prosecutors that he accepted more than $30,000 in tickets to 40 sporting events, a luxury golf trip to Scotland and $10,000 in cash from Abramoff and his lobbying team. He acknowledged providing them with information about the reorganization of the Homeland Security Department, federal disaster and highway aid, and maritime issues."

That’s the strategy of the Democrats, this whole criminalization of politics. That’s the new level of politics now that the Democrats have exhibited. They can’t beat you at the ballot box so they try to beat you in the jury box. They have no ideas and no agenda so they try to destroy you and put you in jail.
Tom Delay, August 14, 2007

We have bloody Monday, and three GOP Senators have announced that they will not run for re-election in 2008. Former Speaker Dennis Hastert is throwing in the towel as is Jim Ramstad. Jerry Weller cracks soon if he hasn't already. More announcements are on the way.

If you were a Republican running for re-election in 2008, what would you do? Everything the party has ever stood for, ever, has been obliterated. They are the hypocrite party, the party of a pussy president who hides behind a general and then cries like a two-year old girl when the general takes a jab in an ad.

An ad.

A party who claims to be against pork and stands against earmarks after what happened 2000-2006? Fiscal discipline after obscene tax cuts for the wealthy with no means of recovery? Imagine being a Republican and talking to anything associated with ethics, integrity, truthfulness, honor, or decency. Faith in God? Is that before or after fondling pages, stalking stalls, exposing oneself to teenage girls, buying prostitutes, buying gay prostitutes, and unprecedented corruption?

Slated to deliver the next State of the Union address is the Girl Scout elected "best speaker" at their next Leadership Development Program. The Girl Scouts of America is contacting newspapers to request they refrain from running advertisements critical of the girl after she delivers the address prepared for her.

The smart GOP in Congress facing re-election will not run. The fortunate among those foolish enough to do so will lose.


Some f**kers been sowing some heavy kinda shit.

15 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bill Frist was actually cleared by the SEC earlier this year.

REVIEW & OUTLOOK (Editorial)
Frist's Vindication
592 words
1 May 2007
The Wall Street Journal
A20
English
(Copyright (c) 2007, Dow Jones & Company, Inc.)

When insider-trading allegations against former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist surfaced back in 2005, they were splashed on the pages of major newspapers from coast to coast. Now that Dr. Frist has been vindicated, the silence is instructive. Is anybody out there?

Senator Frist was alleged to have received an insider tip and then sold shares in a hospital company run by members of his family. The Securities and Exchange Commission and Justice Department investigated for 18 months, and last week the SEC announced that it had closed its probe without taking action -- that is, the doctor was cleared. Thanks in part to his meticulous email archives, Dr. Frist was able to show that he had begun the process of selling his HCA stock in April of 2005, months before he was alleged to have received the inside whispers.

The controversy surrounding his involvement in health care was a perennial bugaboo for Dr. Frist. For years he was harassed by such liberal lobbies as Public Citizen, and Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, which alleged conflicts of interest. These groups objected even to those stocks he held in the blind trust he had created to avoid the appearance of a conflict of interest. Yet when he sold those stocks, with a possible eye on higher office, he was pilloried for doing what the ethicists had asked him to do all along.

Today, even this muted absolution is surely a relief to Dr. Frist. Yet it's impossible to undo the damage to his political career. Despite flimsy evidence, the media storm cast a shadow over his office, derailing any thought of a Presidential bid this year. The Nashville heart surgeon chose instead to "take a sabbatical from public life."

Democrats naturally cared less about the actual facts than about pinning another scandal on Congressional Republicans in the run-up to the fall elections. But what about others who thought it clever or funny or perhaps mandatory to get their share of media attention by confusing accusation with proof of wrongdoing?

American University Professor James Thurber got his name in the paper for quipping that Senator Frist "came in like Jimmy Stewart and was leaving like Martha Stewart." What a card. As for the press corps, it ran off in a braying stampede in pursuit of the theme du jour, which was Abramoff-DeLay-GOP corruption. The accusations against Dr. Frist fit that template, so there was no need for the herd of independent minds to inspect the evidence and make distinctions. A Washington Post editorial from the day now looks especially embarrassing -- and unfair.

As a medical professional with strong Tennessee roots, Bill Frist was the kind of person we'd hope would occasionally choose to participate in politics, as opposed to the permanent political class that now dominates Congress. That his previous engagement in the real world, even carefully and transparently managed, made him an unfair target of political attacks shows why so few people of accomplishment run for office. These are the kind of people that the goo-goo Naderites and their media acolytes end up driving from public life.

Dr. Frist now joins a long line of public servants to be smeared on page one and exonerated next to the classifieds, only to wonder if anyone noticed. As former U.S. Secretary of Labor Ray Donovan asked after his legal ordeal, "Which office do I go to to get my reputation back?"

9/25/2007 7:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ok anon, only how many more to go? I always have to chuckle about the "liberal media conspiracy." If someone goes into public service, they should expect extreme scrutiny. I would think that before taking office one would do all they could to distance themselves from anything that could be perceived as a conflict of interest. Whatever you may feel about it, the requirements to hold public office are very simple. Do not break the law, and do not use your office for personal gain.

These men and women knew the risk of trying to live in both the public and private sector simultaneously, they gave in to temptation, and they have paid the price. I don't feel sorry for them or their reputation in the least.

9/25/2007 8:12 AM  
Blogger x4mr said...

Of the nauseating laundry list of filth and vermin, I consider it likely that some, Frist included, may be innocent, at least technically. His name did give me pause.

First remark: If you find yourself in a party full of drug dealers, mob bosses, whores, pimps, thieves, extortionists, and killers, maybe you should leave.

Second remark: For everyone on the list that may not belong there, I assert there's at least five if not ten that we have not caught.

I won't argue with anon about Frist. The storm will take out some innocent people. 4000 dead kids come to mind. The other 30,000 are pretty much destroyed as well, barely functional, mental mush, and having to eat through a straw.

The GOP has turned Washington into a soulless whorehouse for corrupt corporate thugs, a broken government descending into little more than an orgy of earmarks and (Iraq) murder.

An individual of character would quit the party. It no longer stands for anything except taking whatever it can get by any means necessary without regard for any principle whatsoever.

Nike: Just do it.
GOP: Just take it.

9/25/2007 8:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"An individual of character would quit the party"

My point exactly, only much more succinct.

9/25/2007 9:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think a clarification might be productive. X4mr is NOT saying that every Republican is a criminal. Of course not. He can speak for himself, but I am confident his rage is at a critical mass of those within the party that have caused the tragic behavior, especially 2000-2006.

Frist may be entirely innocent of any criminal conduct in the strict sense of the word, but he was the Senate Majority Leader, an office of considerable import, and he was either asleep at the switch, didn't care, or at worst, part of the problem. Perhaps (quite possible) he was bullied by the Rove / Cheney machine.

I know I have read at this blog the idea that the GOP needs to destroy itself and reinvent itself from the components that are healthy and good for our country.

What cannot be disputed is that corrupt and criminal elements have hijacked the party, and if it doesn't get its act together, it faces ruin.

Indeed, the wounds already inflicted may prove fatal.

9/25/2007 10:45 AM  
Blogger x4mr said...

Navigator,
Bullseye. I think the cancer metaphor captures it. Cheney is malignant. Delay, Abramoff, Reed, Scully, Schofield, are like cancer cells spreading the filth.

Bush, Cheney, and Hunt point to a lot. Where is the GOP outrage? Where are the "good" of the GOP? Who are they? Cheney says, "Deficits don't matter."

One would think the GOP Congress would have a cow over such a statement. Instead they smile and nod. I just don't get it.

Then they accuse Democrats of supporting pork?

Rove has opened Pandora's box of the most vile tactics possible. They do what they did to Kerry and Max Cleland, and then have the gall to gripe about Patraeus.

That's one thing I have to acknowledge about Mitt Romney. In attacking his own party, he is one of the early voices to acknowledge the cancer. He kept it general.

The bold move is to get specific. I want to see GOP presidential hopefuls BLAST the cancer. While I'm fantasizing, imagine a GOP contender calling for the immediate congressional probe into whether Bush and Cheney should be tried for high treason and crimes against humanity.

Now wouldn't that be something?

9/25/2007 11:52 AM  
Blogger Liza said...

I see that my former representative, Randy "Duke" Cunningham, didn't make the list. Could this be an oversight?

And, yes, it's true. I lived in CA CD50 for about three years. However, there was another three year period in the late 70's when I lived in Houston and was represented by Barbara Jordan.
Kind of amazing, when you think about it. From a brilliant lawyer to the dumbest of crooks and everything inbetween.

We need term limits in Congress. There is just too much incentive to be dishonest and absolutely no incentive to be anything but.

9/25/2007 12:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is so annoying to listen to you liberal whining idiots griping about the people who are actually doing something to address the threats facing the country. You bitch and moan and offer nothing productive or useful to the solve the issues.
What are you suggesting, xm4r, that we just let the terrorists get the bomb? Should we just leave the Taliban alone while they create training camps to arm terrorists. Should we just ignore them and let them come here? By going to Iraq and Afghanistan we showed the world that we will hit back if someone hits us. Note that we have not been hit since.

Freedom is not free. It costs money to defend the country, yet you offer no solutions. The democrats have no ideas, no plan, no solutions. They are a do nothing party. They sit on the sidelines while Republicans do the work.

Israel knows what I am talking about. They have to fight to survive. The islamo-fascists want an Islamic world. They want Israel first, and Iran has said they will bomb Israel as soon as they get the bomb. Israel needs to strike Iran and soon, hitting its bomb factories. Cheney knows we might have to do it first.

Ahmadinijad is the 21st century Hitler who wants an Islamic empire. He will take over Iraq if we leave and expand from there.

9/25/2007 12:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

fu, whatever.

x4mr, the image of a girl scout at the podium with the vice-president and speaker of the house behind her as she speaks to congress about the nation is killer.

My question is this. As she enters the floor, how does that announcer guy introduce her?

Most important, will congress get any cookies?

9/25/2007 1:08 PM  
Blogger Sirocco said...

Fu,

Hey, even a former general doesn't think Iran getting nuclear weapons would be the end of the world ... but so far they haven't developed them, and we haven't needed military strikes to keep that the case. Why should we automatically think we need to resort to a military solution now?

It does cost money to defend the country. How do you reconcile that fact with the administration's decision to drastically cut taxes, and then not repeal the cuts once it opted to start a war? Or is that logical inconsistency simply non-existent for you?

First Khomanei was Hitler, then Saddam was Hitler, now Ahmadinijad is Hitler (and I know I have skipped a few in between) ... suddenly we are overflowing with Hitlers.

Of course, Ahmadinijad hasn't launched an aggressive war against his neighbors, something Hitler was known for. Nor is there any sign he plans to do so. He's not even head of state in Iran. You just keep throwing around your mindless, ridiculous hysterics though ...

9/25/2007 1:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what exactly do terrorism, iran, isreal etc. have to do with GOP corruption?

fu, why do you and your ilk suggest that military action is the only tool at our disposal? such things have a time and a place. While "conservatives" (read, republicans) lambast "liberals" (read, everyone else) for not having any ideas, they have one really bad one. It is at best intellectually lazy to have as your only solution "invade country X and rebuild it"

Strategies such as these only reinforce the idea of american imperialsm. By just hauling off and invading wherever we see fit, we validate fringe movements, cementing them as mainstream. The republicans do everything and democrats do nothing trope is tired, and needs a rest.

I have noticed that for hardcore bush supporters, everything republicans do is virtuous, and whatever "liberals" do is either worthless or diabolical. If you agree, you are a patriot, if not, you are an idiot. Face it, the republican party as it is now has betrayed every main conservative value with exception of one, and executed that one very poorly.

Government size has increased, constitutional freedoms have been curtailed, fiscal responsibility went out of the window long ago, and we needlessly intervene in foreign affairs. All modern republicans have left is paying lip service to morality and a sociopathic foreign policy.

9/25/2007 3:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, awesome political blog with neat extra stuff. That one thread at the other post about Liza seeing something about you that you don't see, and the Navigator must be some swami Buddhist dude.

Your photos beat those of any other political blog I have ever seen, and it's not even close. You are the Tiger Woods of political blog photos.

You've got a certain, uh, what's the word. Class?

Elegance! That's it. It's cool.

Dustin is absolutely right. The Fu comment has nothing to do with corruption. The Fu comment sounds like something written because that's what he felt like saying. He just belched his belch and it stinks his stink. The guy does not have even close the smarts to say anything intelligence about the deluge of x4mr's long list that just shows how bad it's become.

I also absolutely agree with x4mr that you know for everything listed, there's stuff we'll never learn about.

The bad news is that I don't think the worst people will ever be truly caught or get their just desserts.

Liza and x4mr and whoever else said it is also right about Iraq. It's totally about oil, oil, and oil.

Terrorism's got nothing to do with it.

9/25/2007 7:50 PM  
Blogger Framer said...

X4mr,

MMMMmmmmm. A lengthy article about political and donor corruption, but I believe Hsu are forgetting something.

I'm all for removing corruption. Again, however, your eventual presidential nominee is hip deep in the same muck (and seemingly always has been). If donor corruption is bad, it is bad for both parties. If it is a huge issue for you, then I would expect more introspection.

Have Hsu even discussed this at all?

Additionally the term "unprecedented corruption" is a bit hyperbolic, wouldn't you think. I know you have a better handle on history than that.

9/26/2007 9:14 AM  
Blogger Sirocco said...

Framer,

It's not that corruption itself is unprecedented, as Hsu point out.

However, the degree to which Republicans institutionalized it over the last twelve years ... yeah, I could make a pretty powerful case that's unprecedented, in this nation at least.

9/26/2007 11:00 AM  
Blogger x4mr said...

Sirocco,

Perfect.

I am no Democrat lover and of course there is plenty of corruption going around. But I despise the GOP, or as already posted, a component of the GOP best exemplified by Cheney.

Deficits don't matter. Screw the poor. Exploit the stupid Christians. Exxon and Pfizer should rule the planet. F the rest of us.

I regard Abraham Lincoln as the greatest planet in the history of the country. He started the GOP.

I think the GOP is so twisted, corrupt, and criminal, that we should just shoot it in the head. Something better will rise from the ashes. Whether it is Framer or Thinkright that emerges triumphant, I don't care, so long as they have integrity, conscience, and the best interests of the whole country, not just Exxon and Halliburton, as their objective.

9/26/2007 6:40 PM  

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