Thursday, July 02, 2009

Evicting Rialto

Someone closer to the situation can tell you what the Rialto Theater actually does with the small space now making news because developers Don Martin and Scott Stiteler suddenly have their panties in a bunch about the financial urgency of collecting rent for its use.

After demanding the theater pay about $40,000 in back rent, said developers have served a 10 day eviction notice. Apparently Martin and Stiteler have either not read Dale Carnegie or don’t care about making friends or influencing people. I’m not clear these guys come out ahead as one cranks up the scrutiny, but the eviction notice extends the invitation.

While unable to offer the slightest contribution to any negotiations, Clothmeister Glenn Lyons, Director of the Downtown Tucson Partnership, volunteered to entertain those meeting on the subject by fingering his arse while eating a hot dog.

12 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Swine and truffles. Truffles and Swine.

Glug, Glug, Glug.

The line about Lyons is hilarious. For the most part that captures what he does for $125,000 a year. That's what he is, an ass and a mouth.

7/02/2009 8:15 AM  
Anonymous Scarlett Letter said...

These guys are realy @$$holes, aren't they?

I bet the space is substandard and the Rialto is using it as-is. Nuttin' fancy.

The downtown drama continues....

7/02/2009 8:20 AM  
Anonymous Observer said...

No one can bash cloth like x4mr.

I think I'll pass on watching Lyons with a hot dog.

Martin, etc., have lost all respect for the situation. They're just saying FU in business speak.

7/02/2009 12:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anyone really know the true story behind all of this? Neither side is the good guy in this battle. Biggers used to own the block with partner Tom Powers and, at times, various other investors ( including someone with the last name DIAMOND). It didn't work out, and Biggers booted them all. In a last ditch effort to save his ass, he buddied up with Martin, but after nothing happened for a good solid year, Martin, a bozo himself, outsmarted Biggers and bought his ass out. Biggers wanted to be the boss of the East end of Congress, but wanted everyone else to subsidize his "master plan" while remaining hands off. Biggers has alienated nearly every business partner he as ever had by bad mouthing them publicly, and now he expects a handout. The fact is, he had his chance to do something with the block and didnt get it done. He sunk a good chunk of money in to the spaces in question without giving much thought to the fact that the rug could just as easily be pulled out from under HIS feet. The sky is dark with chickens for Biggers.

7/02/2009 12:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous 2 said...

$130,000 for Lyons.

7/02/2009 5:02 PM  
Anonymous Robish said...

The space that Martin/Stiteler are evicting the Rialto from is the "green room", which is a separate building that faces Broadway, south of the theatre. This is where the bands go to chill out and prepare for their shows at the Rialto, just as performers do before concerts, shows, and appearances on The Tonight Show.

The theatre itself has no space that would work for a green room. The stage door lets right into the alley. There is no "backstage" area at the Rialto to speak of.

Regardless of past failures to consolidate this property for the theatre's use, the fact is that the Rialto does need the space, and it is not worth anything close to what Martin is asking for it.

7/02/2009 5:09 PM  
Anonymous thomas said...

Anon (12:48) is right that there is plenty of blame to go around. Martin is a greedy grease ball. Stiteler was born into shadiness and shenanigans. I don't recall if his dad actually went to jail, but he deserved it and people tried.

Cloth self-serving and ineptitude enables situations like this.

Robish is right that the charges are ridiculous, and the retroactive back rent is completely absurd.

Remember that Crawford is on the DTP board and lots of people support the Rialto. Maybe DTDC is just saying FU but I'm guessing they're just angling for the largest check possible to make this whole thing go away.

7/02/2009 5:42 PM  
Anonymous Anon2 said...

Thomas is right. This is all a negotiation. Martin and Stiteler are simply playing the "obstinate and furious" extreme so as to solicit the most generous offer possible to go away.

The city will put forward an embarrassment minimizing offer pieced together somehow, and if done correctly, the developers will see that taking the fast money is a smarter move than continued hard ball.

7/02/2009 6:24 PM  
Anonymous kaneui said...

If Williams & Dame is watching, they are undoubtedly feeling vindicated that leaving Tucson's "leaders" and its wannabe developers to their petty schoolyard squabbles was indeed the best decision for their own sanity and reputation.

After watching such antics repeat themselves year after year, it's also no wonder the local populace grows increasingly jaded and angry about downtown redevelopment--the next cycle only brings a new slate of politicians and their money grubbers.

7/02/2009 6:26 PM  
Blogger The Navigator said...

Maybe Martin and company didn't get the memo about paying due sums to Eckstrom and Hecker for permission to do anything.

7/02/2009 9:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Martin did have a parting of sorts from Cloth central TREO. Apparently after giving TREO quite the payoff ($50K), Martin realized the outfit was a total scam and demanded most or all of his money back.

TREO actually did return about half of the money, an almost unheard of event (TREO almost never signs the front of a check save for personal friends and consultants.)

It makes sense that Martin, etc., would have a rocky relationship with the cloth, and yeah, no good guys in this trough tussle.

7/02/2009 10:29 PM  
Anonymous Robish said...

The Cloth consider Martin to be a bad guy, but he just so happens to have delivered the key property to the Stiteler east end empire. Because of that, and since Stiteler is Hein's buddy, and has charmed Trasoff, Martin has found himself accidentally on the Cloth's good side.

7/03/2009 7:18 AM  

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