Sunday, June 21, 2009

Neda



The specific embed here may stop working as the ongoing cyber battle rages. The video is the real one, so be warned. What got me was the real time blood from her nose and mouth. I don’t think the current regime understands the new reality and the damage it has sustained. Iran’s controlled media now refer to the protesters as terrorists (what irony), suggesting the ayatollahs don’t quite grasp that the genie is out of the bottle. Supreme Leader Ayatullah Ali Khamenei has defended the election results as legitimate in the context of the will of the people, betraying the depth of the paradigm shift. Years ago, the theocracy’s elections followed the will of Allah, not the people.

I prefer to believe the shot was fired into the crowd without a specific target to thinking someone deliberately shot a sixteen year old girl in the chest. In either case, the image of Neda and the footage of her death have provided those seeking change an extraordinarily powerful symbol and focal point. Time will now reveal how long this Titanic remains afloat after slamming into the berg.

UPDATE: The cyber war continues. I have had to change the embed code twice. We are truly witnessing the profound implications of the new reality. They can destroy link after link, but new links sprout faster. Knowledge of what happened to this girl, and of a lot that happens, can no longer be suppressed. My sense is that Youtube searches will continue to find the soul stirring 40 second clip destined for prominence in history. Yes, I cried watching Neda die. May her death contribute to the birth millions of Iranians are risking their lives to obtain.

16 Comments:

Anonymous Framer said...

Now if only you could get your guy Obama to give a damn. . .

6/21/2009 6:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Obama is playing this perfectly, and Framer knows it.

The video is heartbreaking and deeply disturbing. I have seen footage of death before, but this clip is SO REAL. It's like I was standing right there, and the crying and screaming.

God help us all.

6/21/2009 7:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Over 70 Iraqis were killed today in a terrorist attack, and you're torn up about one girl who attended a protest after her government warned against it.

6/21/2009 9:20 PM  
Anonymous Framer said...

Obama is Carter.

He is certainly NOT playing this perfectly.

It is OK to express your displeasure over an illegal election, and using violence as a means to retain power. See Sarkozy and Merkel.

It seems Obama and his handlers are more afraid of seeing the Bush Doctrine vindicated than seeing actual change in the Middle East.

6/22/2009 8:17 AM  
Anonymous Observer said...

The obscenity known as the Bush doctrine is the worst foreign policy blunder in US history. It is because of Bush's swaggering arrogance and labeling Iran as "evil" that Ahmadinejad got elected in the first place in 2005. Iran was moving in the right direction until the vomit bucket stole the 2000 election and destroyed everything.

Obama is working to erase the taste of self-worshiping emperors pretending they rule the world. Apparently Framer hasn't figured out that with few exceptions the whole world HATES THE TORTURING, MURDERING, AND TOTALLY CORRUPT TRAITOR BUSH who can barely break away from playing with himself in front of a mirror long enough to be told (he can't count) how much money he has, although he has never EVER at any time earned a nickel in his pathetic excuse of a life.

Obama's speech in Cairo accomplished 1000 times more good in 2 hours than Bush could achieve in a million lifetimes. Bush's greatest contribution to humanity will occur when he stops breathing, which can't happen soon enough.

6/22/2009 9:24 AM  
Blogger Liza said...

Observer,
Ditto.

Andrew Sullivan at theatlantic.com is making blog history with his coverage of events in Iran.

6/22/2009 10:28 AM  
Anonymous Framer said...

Obama's speech in Cairo was rendered moot in two weeks by what is happening in Iran. It appears that today with his comments he is trying to get on the right side of history. Way to show courage.

Anon, spare me. You don't even know what the Bush doctrine is, as it has become anything you want it to be to hate Bush further. Your man is in charge now, and he seemed more interested in keeping a line open for future negotiations with the ruling regime in Iran then in siding with those willing to risk their lives to oppose tyranny. That's hope and change you can believe in.

I use this portion of the "Bush Doctrine" as the basis for what Obama does not believe in as it is the only portion that he has yet to co-opt or expand:

"The defense of freedom requires the advance of freedom."

There is no reason at all to oppose what is happening in Iran as it aligns both with our self interest and our moral hopes.

ANd yes, Andrew Sullivan is doing a good job.

6/22/2009 10:54 AM  
Blogger The Navigator said...

Don’t hold back, Observer.

I doubt anyone in the USA sides with the current regime. We all want the people to succeed in ousting Ahmadinejad. He's an inflammatory and misogynist kook who denies the holocaust and forwards rhetoric favoring the destruction of Israel, an entirely counterproductive position.

I would ask Framer what he really thinks different language from Obama would accomplish. I think Ahmadinejad would love for Obama to issue harsh statements around which he could generate support for himself opposing USA influence. I agree with Observer that the Cairo speech, and Obama himself by virtue of who he is, played a significant role in bringing this about. The whole world understands that the Obama administration is not looking for a fight, and that’s a good thing in the current reality.

Framer may not be a Bush apologist, but sometimes he sounds like one. I don’t know how anyone can regard Bush as anything other than an abomination. The man is stupid, incompetent, corrupt, cruel, uncaring, and clueless. Not only does Bush not know reality, he has such a messiah complex that he thinks reality is whatever he decides. If it weren’t for Papa Bush, the simp would flunk high school and mow lawns, which would have been far better for all of humanity including him.

Having to cut real grass on a real lawn to earn a wage might have made him a human being instead of what happens when you microwave dog shit.

6/22/2009 1:24 PM  
Blogger x4mr said...

I don't have a clear position regarding how Obama should address this, and we should note that it is a shifting situation. I reject the notion that Obama is being weak or paralyzed. I think he is being cautious, but I am sympathetic to views like Framer's that statements supporting the protesters might make a lot of sense, and more so over time. Of course, one could argue that Obama has in fact made such statements.

I've lost the link, but somewhere there is an interview with one of the protesters following Moussavi and claiming to speak for many of those in "the movement" (my words). He directly asks for support, and when pressed for what we might do, he proposed cutting off gasoline to Iraq (they import 85% of what they use).

Perhaps their next step, which would hopefully involve little violence, will be organized strikes. They need to figure out a way, with or without international help (or visible international help), to grind the system down and choke the regime.

The Neda video is gut wrenching and galvanizing energy towards a flash point, both there and here.

The argument that the US should hop on its moral horse and howl about an evil regime is perplexing for Obama. The country that had WHAT for the last eight years now wants to claim moral high ground and talk about evil regimes?

For now, I trust Obama's judgment on the issue. The US needs to get out of the pompous crusader business. Obama has condemned the violence. He has voiced support for the people. He's trying to be smart, and as conditions unfold I think he'll adjust accordingly.

What America wants is painfully obvious. In the world of public opinion, Iran's regime just fell off a cliff, opening the door for sanctions and isolation with real teeth. Who is going to come out in support of Ahmadinejad in the international community? N. Korea and Hamas?

I would propose a multi-faceted, multi-level approach of UN sanctions, gasoline embargo, grass roots strikes, and smart back room politicking to derail support for the regime.

By the way, Nav, thanks for the microwave image. Awgllacckk. My nose hurts.

6/22/2009 3:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry, x4mr, but the shot that killed Neda was not random.

She was individually selected and executed with a center shot by a basij sniper as she stood next to her father. Someone deliberately shot a young girl through the heart.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtkiLBfHnvw

6/22/2009 4:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We have now learned that she was 26, not 16, and that she was deliberately executed by the basiji, some saying from a nearby roof top and some saying from a motorcycle.

I hope this regime burns.

Wikipedia is continuing to improve its page as we learn more.

6/23/2009 10:02 AM  
Anonymous Framer said...

Just an update:

The United States said Monday its invitations were still standing for Iranian diplomats to attend July 4 celebrations at US embassies despite the crackdown on opposition supporters.

President Barack Obama’s administration said earlier this month it would invite Iran to US embassy barbecues for the national holiday for the first time since the two nations severed relations following the 1979 Islamic revolution.

“There’s no thought to rescinding the invitations to Iranian diplomats,” State Department spokesman Ian Kelly told reporters.

And the punch line:

The State Department has said that the invitations are largely a symbolic gesture of goodwill

6/23/2009 12:29 PM  
Blogger x4mr said...

That they would deliberately shoot such a person is salt in a still agonizing wound, and they effed up big time killing such a vibrant and beautiful woman. The gender component of this conversation is escalating dramatically with a woman protester defiantly proclaiming, "When they want to hit me, I say hit."

Wow.

The regime's arrogance about "teaching a lesson" is insulting and quite possibly pouring gas on the fire. In fact, their bullying language reminds me of a recent administration in another country.

While it's possible the Obama administration is doing as you suggest, Framer, it is anything but certain. There may be some game theory going on. There's the bit about keeping enemies closer as well as the less than certain nature of what gets discussed at those BBQ's by those diplomats that choose to attend.

Obama's language is already shifting and I think the shift will continue.

By the way, of course I meant Iran and not Iraq regarding the gas embargo in my prior remark.

Yes, Anon, I want this regime to burn.

6/23/2009 1:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

X4mr is absolutely right about the game theory. McCain and Graham and the rest are baby poos playing badminton.

Obama is a US president that has the intelligence to realize he is playing chess, not badminton. Remember his quote, "I like to know what I am talking about before I speak."

Playing chess, Obama is carefully considering the scenarios made possible by each subsequent move, weighing and assessing the probabilities, the pitfalls, the long term implications. After 8 years of distilled shit fuck stupid in the oval, it's refreshing to see a decent, real, thinking person in the White House.

Obama is the best president this country has had in decades. I love watching him do the job better than anything I have seen in my lifetime.

6/23/2009 4:31 PM  
Anonymous Framer said...

If Obama started his next press conference by slapping Helen Thomas, mooning the audience, then bursting outside to to smoke a pack of camels, yelling at everyone to "leave me the *&^%^ alone!" many of you would praise it as a masterful move showing his extreme competence and grasp of the situation.

Truth is Obama and his advisors were caught flat-footed, had no idea what the politically expedient thing would be to do, and waited to see how you and I were going to act before doing or saying anything.

Now that he has seen the same you tube clips that we have, he is NOW having a problem with what happened, because people are calling him out.

That can be a lot of things, but it certainly isn't leadership.

Again, see Merkel and Sarkozy.

6/23/2009 5:45 PM  
Blogger The Navigator said...

Merkel:
Germany stands on the side of those people in Iran who want to exercise their right to freedom of expression and freedom of assembly. I strongly urge the Iranian leaders

* to allow peaceful demonstrations;
* not to use force against demonstrators;
* to release political prisoners;
* to allow free reporting by the media; and
* to recount the votes cast in the presidential election.

What is true for the rest of the world is also true for the Iran: general human and civil rights must be fully respected!


Sarkozy:
As the landslide victory of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in Iran's disputed election provoked unrest, French President Nicolas Sarkozy denounces the result of Friday's vote as a "fraud", Press TV reported.

"The extent of the fraud is proportional to the violent reaction," Sarkozy said Tuesday. "It is a tragedy, but it is not negative to have a real-opinion movement that tries to break its chains."

"If Ahmadinejad has really made progress since the last election and if he really represents two thirds of the electorate... why has this violence erupted?" asked the French leader.


We know, Framer, but are you aware Iran is now forcing confessions from prisoners that blame the west for their behavior? The regime is also claiming that the shooting of Neda was staged. Obama speaks with the awareness that his every word is fuel for the regime to twist in any possible way for its own ends. Merkel, and in particular Sarkozy, enjoy greater latitude than Obama when they speak. The comparison is flawed.

I don't remember who said it first, but Obama is playing this well.

6/23/2009 6:19 PM  

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