Sunday, May 03, 2009

TIF for Rent?

Tucson, Arizona. An anonymous source submitted the following remarks 45 comments deep at last week’s Conniving Cloth post. The naming and logo assertion can be easily confirmed. When was the Alliance clothified into the DTP?

A little bit of research by the "right" people will have one discover that the Downtown Tucson Partnership is actually a violation of Non-Profit law. Additionally their Security Division is in immediate violation of the Department of Public Safety regulations for the naming and logo of the Security Agency. They still wear "Downtown Alliance" patches and shirts. They have not bought new ones as all the loot is going to the Calgary Czarist and Queen Caraena's salaries. This seemingly small thing with name and logo is actually huge in the eyes of DPS. They could be closed down on the spot.

A bit more research may bring a real gem of undisclosed activity into the sunlight, which is that no one to date can tell the citizenry if TIF monies are being used to pay the rent at TCC to the BDFC. Yes, "rent." And what might be the rate of return to these clandestine investors be?

Dot after dot begins to fill the screen. We have the Lot 175 cash scam. We have TREO stealing funds allotted to other non-profits. We have the December Rio Nuevo bond maneuver. We have the DTP gunning for a fat Rio Nuevo gig. They used TIF to promote a parade, travel, dine, and study, but TIF funds paying rent?

At the moment it's an anonymous comment at a blog, but facts are persnickety and persistent. Not always, but with a degree of regularity time wounds all heels.

Tick tock.

Cloth: I am shocked to learn that financial improprieties are taking place.
City Council: Here's your bounty, sir.


Anonymous Monitor said...

That is very interesting, indeed. Isn't DTP about to be awarded a contract to do security in the city's downtown parking garages?

Indeed it is, I just looked it up on the city council's agenda website. It's this Tuesday, and guess what? The awarding of this contract is on Consent Agenda! That's where various sweetheart deals get hidden away, along with approving meeting minutes and recognizing Cub Scout troops.

One would think this compliance issue would be of some interest to the city government, especially before Tuesday. One would assume that the city requires that its security vendors be licensed agencies. Apparently DTP has a license, but it may be heading towards suspended status.

5/03/2009 10:12 PM  
Anonymous Monitor said...

The anonymous commenter should tell us more about the charge that the DTP violates non-profit laws. That is serious stuff.

He/she can't tease us with that and then not give us the details and the benefit of his/her reasoning.

5/03/2009 10:15 PM  
Anonymous Robish said...

I think that the TCC pays rent to Rio Nuevo.

5/03/2009 10:29 PM  
Blogger The Navigator said...

The reciprocal wallet stuffing image is just exquisite, x4mr. I know you’re not a "professional blogger" in the formal sense but you’re a pro in my book. Others can chime in with their views, but I noted your treatment of the anonymous comment. You put question marks after the questionable. You placed a question mark in your title and in the red.

For what it’s worth, I am highly inclined to believe Robish over any anonymous comment. Over the last several months Robish has clearly demonstrated his insight and understanding of the topics he addresses. Monitor is right. This anon needs to provide more substance.

A certain light bulb flashed when I read this last post. Starting my own blog has crossed my mind, but Sirocco’s and Art Jacobson’s marginal prolificity helped sanity prevail. The more I think about it, if I were just assigned "image duty" at this place I’d fall on my face.

I am, however, gaining confidence in my ability to submit a worthy comment. At this point, when I comment and others find value in what I say, that works for me.

5/04/2009 12:20 AM  
Anonymous Robish said...

Your comments are valuable, to be sure.

And thanks for the vote of confidence!

I wonder if the anonymous commenter's remark about DTP breaking non-profit laws relates to excessive compensation. Whether he/she is correct or not, I don't know, but I'm guessing the angle he/she is coming from is that non-profits are not supposed to pay executives excessively, OR that the DTP's actual scope of activity doesn't fall within the purpose stated in their articles of incorporation. Or, their exempt activities do not further a pubic purpose, so they shouldn't be exempt.

Hopefully this person checks in again with more information.

Regardless of whether the assertion about the TCC is correct, and I don't think it is, it raises an interesting point. The city and county keep refinancing their buildings, and the owners of many of our public buildings are groups like BDFC. This seems like fertile ground for funny business.

That uniform thing is easily confirmed, though. Just go downtown and find one of the people wearing the purple uniform shirts.

5/04/2009 12:43 AM  
Blogger Liza said...

"We have the Lot 175 cash scam. We have TREO stealing funds allotted to other non-profits. We have the December Rio Nuevo bond maneuver. We have the DTP gunning for a fat Rio Nuevo gig. They used TIF to promote a parade, travel, dine, and study..."

This is what we know so far, and it's quite enough. Of course, there is more, there always is. If not the rent issue, then it will be something else.

It's already way past the time to call in the replacements. It's time for outrage. There's already enough to justify it.

I agree that the image on this post is really good. Almost cute, except for the truth it conveys and the sad consequences for Tucson.

5/04/2009 9:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

More Clothspeak here:

5/04/2009 10:27 AM  
Blogger Liza said...

Not fair to post that link and NOT tell X4mr that the article is about Joe Snell and TREO.

X4mr, do whatever you do when you have to read objectionable and infuriating material before looking at that link.

I wish I had been warned. Now I have to go shopping or something to recover.

5/04/2009 11:12 AM  
Blogger x4mr said...

Of course your remarks are valued, but regarding your own blog, keep in mind that you pick whatever drum beat works for you. Sirocco, Art, etc., can do whatever they like. I will warn you, however, that there is a huge difference between generating a post and commenting at one.

I've had to endure meetings with these characters, so articles like that just bounce off as "blah, blah." ITB is a cheerleader that publishes stuff like that all the time. Anon is right about the level of BS. Once it is distinguished, you can really see the clothspeak for the empty drivel that it is. That silly program has no substance and will not help a single person get a job.

I am also inclined to believe Robish about TIF and rent, but as he notes, there is so much smoke we know there's fire and lots of it. For that parking gig, DTP is going to get something like $550K for work that only costs $400K. It's the Ka-Ching! just like in the picture.

5/04/2009 12:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Liza, I'm sorry. I didn't follow the Sustainability, Equity, Development blog rules. Twenty lashes with a wet bolt of Cloth.
Also, I don't know how to turn URLs into active links. I need basic training.

5/04/2009 12:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The response of Robish to Navigator is on target.It is the excessive compensation and public purpose that alert the non-profit cops;IRS, to perform an audit. Even UMC got in a bit of hot water maybe 8-10 years ago when it was discovered that they were not as involved in the community as they claimed. No one is exempt for life. And TDP has a marginal public purpose, particularly when the salaries of SHE and HE are three times that of the previous Executive Director. How is the public served with the X3 multiplier?
The Security Agency concern is self-evident. Not to mention that they do not work after 11pm and the staffing is below the mandated number. Is that secure? What experience and or training do HE&SHE have in Security? How can they maintain a State License with no training? And we are going to just hand them the whole show? Wow, what a town.
I too have come to learn on these posts that Robish is a fountain of corroborated material,,,whom ever he/she may be. So if Rio Nuevo owns TCC, who approved that? And how was debt retired from the Sale/Leaseback? Was TIF money used to retire the debt? If that is the case then ..por mi dios.. we got a problem NASA!!
Sure hope that whomever reads these posts has contacts on the City Council. I am just a part time resident.

5/04/2009 2:05 PM  
Blogger The Navigator said...

No worries, Anon. X4mr has forever forfeited any right to complain about any links posted at this blog ever.

I sustained permanent psychological damage after clicking to content most foul and abhorrent. X4mr posted about a "bad link" preceded by "WARNING-DON'T CLICK!"

Everyone but Sirocco immediately clicked on the link. Some of us are still in therapy.

5/04/2009 2:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As the grease gets thicker, I cannot understand how DDC is even permitted to have a seat on anyones Board, when they have yet to clear up their 990 tax filings that never showed the salary of Doug Kennedy over the past years. Even the mob is smarter than that.

5/04/2009 2:17 PM  
Blogger The Navigator said...

Obviously my comment above is to the 12:35 Anon, not the 2:05.

About the latter, what excellent questions. There is thick black smoke all over the place. The place is burning with backroom back scratching and shady deals. What a mess.

5/04/2009 2:23 PM  
Anonymous Observer said...

First, to the 12:35 anon (I wish you guys would use names), you create a hyperlink with an html tag. To keep what I type from becoming an actual link, "GT" means ">" and "LT" means "<".

What you type is:

LT a href = "thefullurlhere" GT Name the link here LT /a GT. That will cause the Name to appear in blue and a click will take the user to the address you typed.

This blog makes me think of The Shawshank Redemption where a guy done wrong is patient and never stops. Two years ago the Cloth brutally screwed, booed, and tattooed x4mr just so TREO could steal his non profit's funding. Ever since x4mr has patiently called attention to the cloth's lies, corruption, incompetence, and fraud.

I don't know if it was here or elsewhere, but I heard TREO freaked when "Something Else" was published. They consulted attorneys, who then researched x4mr's blog. X4mr saw the visiting attorneys in his site traffic analysis, so he wrote a blog post addressing the attorneys!!

That was great!

5/04/2009 4:05 PM  
Anonymous Framer said...

Just an update:

Rio Nuevo Committee rebuffed the extra money to the west side projects, Frank drew his line in the sand as far as spending any money by vote from that meeting, all the Tea Partiers in attendance gave Frank a long ovation, the Rio Nuevo council blinked, held no vote and kicked the ball down the road.

The cloth gave a presentation about a hotel they will not get to build.

All the media was there too, something that wouldn't have happened even three months ago. All in all it was a victory, but a small one.

5/04/2009 7:29 PM  
Blogger x4mr said...

Thanks so much, and good for you, Frank, and the Tea Partiers for going. I would quite possibly have teared up on hearing the cheers for Antoneri as he took a stand against the cloth.

I have a degree of confidence that Representave Antoneri is aware of what happens at this blog as well as Arizona Eighth and Tucson Choices. At the latter we've just learned the MTCVB (also pure cloth) just raised the bed tax by a buck a night (adds up fast) without the slightest consideration of the city's hotels.

That's par for their course.

5/04/2009 8:49 PM  
Anonymous Framer said...

It's like fighting a damn hydra. You mount a battle in one area and there are 15 more going on in places you never dreamed.

We got 2 of the three this week though.

5/04/2009 9:28 PM  

Post a Comment

Links to this post:

Create a Link

<< Home