Tuesday, December 18, 2007

A Very Rotten Eggplant

The reader might remember that during the 2004 election Dan Rather of CBS broke a story about documents suggesting Eggplant received favorable treatment from the Texas National Guard including not having to serve his duties or fulfill his obligation. Like mobsters who get put on a company payroll and paid with paychecks from a place they've never even seen, once he didn't feel like serving anymore, Bush got to play pilot without having to actually be anywhere or do anything

What is beyond dispute is that prior to just flat out quitting, Bush had problems landing his F-102 and started flying the cakewalk T-33 (a training plane). Then he started logging time just co-piloting the T-33 as described in this solid document. Near the end, he logged time in a flight simulator. Regarding these assignments, I call the reader's attention to the first sentence of last paragraph:

The logs have a code indicating the assignments were eventually deleted from his records.

Eggplant seems to be followed by a lot of record deletions, destroyed emails and interrogation tapes, visitation records (are those destroyed yet?). That the Killian documents are legitimate remains in dispute but given everything else that has been going on, I smell a rotten Eggplant. Bush's 8/1/72 grounding for failure to complete a physical is solid fact. What kind of a National Guard pilot having sworn an oath of duty gets himself grounded over the failure to take a physical?

After the story broke, powerful people in high places kicked into high gear to discredit it, and CBS got caught up in forces over its head, literally, its owner, Viacom. The White House has pals at Viacom, and from above not only did Dan Rather, but Mary Mapes and others were handed their heads over the story. I've not read Mapes' book and don't know all of what she presents, but in light of the way this administration has behaved and continues to behave, I consider it likely that in a few years we'll get to watch a movie starring Al Pacino as Dan Rather, only instead of messing with big tobacco's lie about the addictive qualities of nicotine, they messed with a corrupt incumbent president and an administration that will stop at nothing to destroy its critics and remain in power.


Blogger Dustin said...

so the documents are not forged then?

12/19/2007 7:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dustin, That is correct. The documents are legitimate, but were destroyed just like the evidence of so much of what Bush has done.

The White House made a deal with Viacom. The evidence against Bush is overwhelming. Mapes book brings it out.

12/19/2007 9:06 AM  
Blogger Dustin said...

I'll have to check that out. I remember the big flap over dan rather using "fake" documents to "smear" W, but I never heard another word regarding the authenticity of such claims.

12/19/2007 9:32 AM  
Blogger Liza said...

When historians finally tell the story of this catastrophic reign of Bush/Cheney, the mainstream media moguls will be key players. The only question remaining is how bad will the MSM news become before it hits bottom.

What happened to Dan Rather, Mary Mapes and the others was also intended to show the MSM journalists what would happen to them if they got any bright ideas about telling some of the truth about Bush/Cheney. They were being forced to choose between their high paying jobs or being real journalists. Of course, being a real journalist during the heyday of Bush/Cheney meant a low paying job in independent media. It is interesting that it was Hurricane Katrina and not the Iraq occupation that started the slight reversal (from being Bush cheerleaders) in some of the MSM.

Anyhow, have any of you seen any film clips of Bush lately? I saw one yesterday and it kind of made me shiver. He looked really bad and he sounded addled, much more so than usual. We've still got a year of him left and that is worrisome.

12/19/2007 11:22 AM  
Blogger thinkright said...

Before you get too worked up, were the original documents written in MS WORD?

12/19/2007 4:19 PM  
Anonymous Diana said...

Oh pleeeeeze.

Dan Rather was a John Kerry ally and they forged the whole story and the whole thing was complete bunk and intentional slam against our president that was unfounded.

x4mr just sits home at night looking for something bad to say about Bush. It really is pathetic. Why don't you get a job, x4mr?

The documents did not stand up under scrutiny because they were forged in a deliberate and false attack.

I don't know how you people can be so blind. Hello? It was PROVEN they were forgeries. I think x4mr could post that the moon is made of cheese and you would believe him.

12/19/2007 4:25 PM  
Blogger Liza said...

Well, well, Diana aka Bubba has returned. How's it going there, big guy? How are they hangin' tonight?

X4mr doesn't have to work too hard to find something bad to say about Bush, now does he? He certainly wouldn't have to quit his job to do something that requires so little effort.

Anyhow, it's Wednesday night so I guess that means Bible Study for you. Right, Bubba?

12/19/2007 6:00 PM  
Blogger x4mr said...


The truth is a secret hidden in these things called books.

12/19/2007 7:26 PM  
Blogger Dustin said...

why bother. seriously. Sometimes I wish I could believe unwaveringly in the inherent goodness of elected officials. Why do you even give a shit anyway diana? everytime somebody disparages bush (rightly or not) you come screeching out of the dark like a flying monkey. go bother somebody for saying happy holidays or something.

Bush supporters don't care about results apparently.

12/20/2007 7:26 AM  
Blogger Sirocco said...

Actually, you have to give Diana credit for at least reading what the other side says, and, much as I (and we) might disagree with her, I don't see any reason to treat her disrespectfully.

When I post on AZ 8th or similar sites, I expect the same.

FWIW, I definitely believe there was some impropriety surrounding Bush's National Guard service (there's just too much smoke, too many unexplained discrepancies), but I find the evidence the Killian documents were forged to be persuasive, and the document discussing Bush's last flying hours doesn't present anything damning either.

12/20/2007 8:56 AM  
Blogger Liza said...

"Diana" is a white male, retired, probably in his late 60's. He watches a lot of Fox News. He thinks Ann Coulter is a real cutie pie.

This isn't someone "listening to the other side." He's here to mainly to harrass X4mr and tell him he's an idiot, etc...

This is just some old jack ass with time on his hands.

12/20/2007 9:25 AM  
Blogger Dustin said...

right, I would also like to say that nobody direspects framer when he comments, or tony, or anyone else who presents themselves courteously. When diana starts commenting in a way that is not overtly dismissive or mocking, then I will do the same. It's not her ideas that bother me, but her tone and presentation. Besides, sirocco, your comments over at framer's place aren't meant to intentionally stir the pot, but to engage in debate. much different than the drive-by venom spewing that seems to be the norm here.

12/20/2007 10:18 AM  
Blogger x4mr said...

Liza is probably correct that Diana is male, and there is a bit of contradiction that s/he even reads this blog, let alone submits a comment.

I consider the person harmless and don't even feel his criticism. If someone wants to "hurt me" it will require solid reasoning and factual content, i.e. an intelligent argument.

I was really expecting to get ripped about "Something Else" by either a disgruntled employee or an upset cement head. The letter from my former boss was pretty nasty but did not contain a single fact.

Clueless to the end. I know for a fact that he loves Eggplant. He and Diana would get along marvelously. They could worship the wisdom of our idiot in chief and blast your humble blogger as a treacherous evil-doer.

For all I know, Diana IS my former boss.

12/20/2007 11:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I doubt Diana is your former boss. I don't think your former boss would dare post a comment at your blog, even anonymously or with a fake name.

I concur with Liza. Diana is most likely a right wing guy who found this place accidentally by a search and gets his jollies hassling x4mr.

I disagree with Sirocco's positive interpretation that the readership reflects an open mind or willingness to hear alternate views.

Diana doesn't come here to consider what x4mr has to say. He comes here to spew and leaves. Unless memory fails me, the person has never responded to feedback. He just posts his one statement and that's it.

That's very different from the dialogs Sirocco, x4mr, and others have at blogs with different views.

12/20/2007 8:32 PM  
Blogger Liza said...

I have noticed that comment moderation is on the rise. Not so much before the comment is posted as afterwards. I've seen this mostly with online newspapers. It makes sense. You put considerable time and effort into many of your posts, do you not? I think that eliminating the comments that are nothing more than insults keeps your readers focused on what you had to say rather than on what was said by some of these occasional, yet very rude visitors.

12/21/2007 10:15 AM  

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