Tuesday, October 02, 2007

Rumsfeld at Stanford

My daughter attends Stanford University, which has brought national attention to itself over Donald Rumsfeld’s joining the Hoover Institute think tank located on the Stanford campus. The event has created quite a hullabaloo. Awhile ago I posted about the possibility of Condoleezza Rice returning to Stanford after her efforts to help W destroy any remnants of good will or respect for the United States in the rest of the world, projecting that it would cause student uproar.

I consider Rumsfeld an even more controversial presence on campus, and both professors and students are speaking out. Two weeks ago the Stanford Daily had an article discussing the turn of events. As of this evening, 3735 have signed an online petition against his arrival on campus.

The New York Times article ran a couple weeks ago. The debate rages on. One student reacted by creating a list of proposed faculty members for next year. I copied this verbatim.


NEW STANFORD PROFESSORS FOR 2008-9:
******************************************
KARL ROVE - Political Science 101
A Series. Includes Dirty Tricks 301/2/3 and Gaybashing 201, and a special lecture entitled: "How to Make Christians Your Bitch!"
RICHARD "DICK" CHENEY - Gerontology 401
New uses for old people in the workplace: grind them up using advanced rendition techniques! Special Field Trip to fabulous secret locales in Cuba, Romania, and Poland.
JEFF GANNON - Journalism 101
How to Get Jobs By Sucking Cock. Period.
It's easy and it's fun! Demonstrations by former Senator Larry Craig (R-ID). Also includes: How to get night passes to the White House, How to Earn Extra Income while Escorting, in conjunction with Matt Sanchez's lecture on:
"How to Do Gay Porn While Still Being Straight"
(live demonstrations)
LYNNE CHENEY - Women's Studies 609
Ms. Cheney will read sensuous and hard-hitting passages from her masterwork "Sisters" while Swedish pages ply you with wine pressed by naked virgins from her home state of Wyoming. Extra Credit given if you join one of her "think tanks".
OSAMA BIN LADEN - Business Finance 666
[Note: Professor may not be available, in which place another member of the Carlyle Group, such as one of the Bin Laden Brothers or George Bush Sr. will preside over the class]
Subjects include: How to take War Profiteering Cash away from the American people, and by diverting it through "lost" or "stolen" merchandise, build huge illegal secret terrorist empires that don't have to pay taxes and are completely outside the financial system! Unlimited profits guaranteed.
LAURA BUSH - Professor of Education 101
Note: Special Studies Class
How to bring EVERY child, even the most hopeless and borderline retarded, up to a minimum level by reading shitty books to them, spending $999 billion on crappy educational materials and doing nothing else. Laura shows how even your lame-ass child can, under her tutelage, become a loyal Dairy Queen employee and/or President of the United States!
Visual Aids: A Sock Puppet OR her husband George, depending on scheduling.

6 Comments:

Blogger Sirocco said...

I disagree with this. I realize Universities in general tend to be way over on the liberal side, but people need to learn to interact and exchange views with those they disagree with.

Just because someone disagrees with my views doesn't mean they are always wrong.

We scoffed at the conservative uproar over Ahmadenijad visiting Colombia. I see this as simply a variant of the same thing.

10/03/2007 8:37 AM  
Blogger Liza said...

sirocco,
A speech is one thing, a position is another.

Besides, by 2008 the country will have had eight years of neoconservatism and that is enough. They could fill a stadium with what is now known and written about neoconservative "views."

Since neocons like Rummy and Mushroom Cloud Condi are apparently not going to be tried as war criminals, it does not follow that they should have opportunities to disseminate beliefs that have had such a devastating effect on the Mideast.

To mitigate any further damage these people are capable of, they should be "mothballed" and never given the opportunity to rear their ugly heads again among people who cherish freedom and democracy.

Remember that scene in "O Brother, Where Art Thou?" where they ride the politician out of town on a rail? That would be a good start.

10/03/2007 9:59 AM  
Blogger Sirocco said...

Liza,

I agree a speech and a position are not the same, it's why I described the response as a "variant".

I stand by that though. Look at some of the comments regarding Rumsfled, and compare to some of those about Ahmadenijad. I, at least, find the tones strikingly similar.

Personally, I would love to have the opportunity to sit in a classroom with Rumsfeld, hear his thoughts on what was/was not known when certain decisions were made, the risk/reward analysis, his responses to hard questions. Unfortunately, the position in question doesn't sound like one where students would have much opportunity to interact with him.

Which isn't to say he shouldn't be there.

10/03/2007 11:42 AM  
Blogger Liza said...

sirocco,
You must be a much nicer person than I am. I couldn't be in the same room with one of the Bush/Cheny neocons. They would end up having to call security and I'd probably be tasered and dragged off to jail.

10/03/2007 12:34 PM  
Blogger x4mr said...

When I first posted about Rice, I had Liza's persuasion of thinking the rats should be banned from any college campus. Then someone submitted a comment challenging me and asking if I would sign up for a class taught by her.

The comment nailed me, because I knew the answer at once. I may or may not have the cerebral horsepower to talk tango with these people, but at Stanford, you can bet someone in the audience will.

That place is full of geniuses. I would love to hear some graduate students and professors get into it with them.

I've not looked into what Rumsfeld would actually do or how Hoover actually relates to Stanford. I think are pretty separate in reality.

Not sure if you know, but protests did keep Bush off the campus, which I find interesting. Bush was going visit Schultz (I believe), and the outcry changed the location of the meeting to a place off campus.

Rice would actually join the university proper.

If they taser you off to jail, Liza, send me the video and I'll post it online.

10/03/2007 1:17 PM  
Blogger Liza said...

I'm really not the Code Pink type, x4mr.

10/03/2007 2:47 PM  

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