Sunday, September 16, 2007

Blognetnews AZ Influence Ranking II

Tucson, Arizona.Each week the national Blog Net News organization ranks the political blogs in each state. I posted critical remarks as did the conservative Maricopa blog Arizona Political Intel. The ranking method still contains flaws, but the site is improving and we are all works in progress.

Your humble blogger is currently ranked first. Last week this blog ranked second. This is not the most influential political blog in Arizona. What I am delighted to report, however, is that its regular readers are a sharp set of folks.

What is influential? In higher education enrollment management, the astute understand that some students (if admitted) will enroll no matter what. Some will not apply no matter what. Influence occurs in the middle. In political context, extremists who preach to their own will influence no one.

BNN's algorithm (which I don't know) uses more than traffic and is likely to include prolificacy of stories and comments, links, and ratings. The U of A football game story got thousands of hits and 150 + comments. Considering prolificacy, does a cartoon equal a powerful, researched, and well-written paper? I spent 30 seconds posting a humorous cartoon. Any good or not, the Bloody Words story took 4+ hours.

A factor worth considering is who is posting. I am not Robert Reich. Further, sites like Arizona Eighth and Sonoran Alliance (links to right) feature a team of several as well as possible "guest" posts from individuals of interest. Even though Pullen's site pretty much stinks and the comment functionality is a joke, he's head of the AZ GOP.

More important than authorship is readership, and who reads is as important as (if not more than) how many. I can promise the dear reader that an visit feels different from or someone in Malaysia who googled "sustainable grass." hits are a delight, indicating a story at their place links here, but the visits make me nervous. I’m praying it’s a politically intrigued secretary. I smile and say a certain "Hi" when I see I have never received a visitor. If I do, I will freak, notify the family, and make financial arrangements. Actually, the visitors to fear will not show reference information.

Summarizing, I salute BNN's efforts, but they have a ways to go. I would suggest clarification of local vs. national influence, and even local has to distinguish how local. RRR and AZ Political Intel have different audiences. Restricting ourselves to Metro Tucson, RRR kicks this blog halfway to Cleveland. If the desired measure is statewide influence, the Maricopa blogs should dominate. Their population dwarfs other communities and they have the state capital.

If BNN wants an overall aggregate measure of blogosphere political impact regarding local, state, and federal issues, they need a serious statistics geek to sort that out.


Anonymous the doctor said...

Sometime ago you wrote of your skepticism about influence, and I agree. I don't think there is much influence for 99+ % of blogs.

I agree that famous and acknowledged people like Reich or Huffington Post may carry some weight.

Still, you may underestimate yourself. The Bush quote story was fantastic. I wish we could put that in Time magazine.

I come here for a good laugh. Every now and then you post some seriously funny stuff that makes my day.

That bit about doing the windows with someone's face, and the cat, oh god.

9/17/2007 8:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Their ranking system must be totally screwed for a blog like this one to be rated the most influential in Arizona. That is totally absurd. Your borderline communist views, contempt for religion, and support for abortion would never gain support or influence hardly anyone in Arizona. Athiests and homosexuals do not make up the majority of Arizona. Your comment that Iraq has been destroyed is a blatent lie. Your claim that we invaded Iraq just for oil is a total lie. You are just one more left wing jerk who lives in freedom without appreciating what it takes to keep America free and defend against those who have said over and over they want to kill us. But hey, go ahead and live in your oblivion thinking you influance the state. Your a real big shot now!!

As Israel knows better than anyone, it takes strength and the will to take the fight to the enemy, or the enemy will kill you.

You get to stay alive because of the people you are so eager to make fun of and criticize.

9/17/2007 10:17 AM  
Blogger Liza said...

Allow me to use the words of someone who I'm sure you greatly admire, President Dick Cheney:

Go fuck yourself.

Now, why don't you go find a nice little blog where assholes rule. There are a lot of them

9/17/2007 10:45 AM  
Blogger Liza said...

If you decide to delete the troll, delete me too. Thx...L

9/17/2007 10:48 AM  
Anonymous dustin said...

Anything you hear should be taken in with a healthy bit of skepticism. I have found that many folks eager to toss communism, freedom, the enemy, and isreal around so lightly to be totally misinformed. There is a healthy segment of the population that thinks anyone who questions the war, or the motives therein to be completely unpatriotic. I take some of the things I read here with a grain of salt. I take many of the things the government tells me with many grains of salt. The reasoning is simple, those with the most power have the most to lose, and will do anything to keep their power.

Anonymous, I don't know where you get your information, and frankly I don't care to speculate. I can tell you this, I don't think that homosexuality, atheism, or communism has anything to do with lack of support for the war. It is unreasoning, unwavering faith in our political convictions that has brought us to where we are now, it is time to admit you at least could be wrong. It is not what you say that convinces me you are wrong, it is how you say it. You have substituted baseless attacks for reasoned debate, and fear for critical thinking. Fear is what drives you, fear of the enemy, fear of death, and above all fear of the other, those who are not us. You are a coward and a fool, who believes what you are told without question or doubt. Go back to hiding in your bunker, cleaning your gun, wetting the bed, and waiting for the apocalypse. At least then we won't have to see you, let alone hear you or read your words.

9/17/2007 11:04 AM  
Anonymous dustin said...

liza, I used to think all the folks who posted this kind of rubbish were trolls as well, lately I'm not so sure they all are. If only.

9/17/2007 11:07 AM  
Blogger Sirocco said...


How does it effect your world view when people who have served in the military, and actually been in combat, come out against the war in Iraq? Are you even able to process that on a logical level?

By the way, the majority of troops who have served in Iraq do not believe we should be there, or should have been there in the first place. The majority also do not feel occupation has been handled correctly by the administration.

How do you explain that away?

9/17/2007 11:37 AM  
Blogger Liza said...

Anon can't answer that. Anon is a white male, probably 60 -75 years old. There isn't anyone younger than that who even thinks about communism. Writing skills indicate that Anon's education maxed out with a high school diploma. Anon watches Fox, and parrots what he hears there, because for him it serves to reinforce and justify his hatred for people who do not conform to his severely restricted world view.

9/17/2007 12:00 PM  
Blogger x4mr said...


No, I won't delete anon. The comment was obnoxious, but stopped short of the line. I have a pretty strong feeling we won't be hearing any more from the guy.

Folks like him don't want to worry about facts, and a rigorous discussion involving clear arguments send his ilk running for the door.

Anon, the next time you submit a comment to a story, I suggest you read it first. Look at the second sentence of the second paragraph, genius. I said this was not the most influential blog. Your mind was so made up about what I thought that you couldn't read a sentence in front of your face.

Consider that this applies to your entire world view. Like our pathetic president, you see only what you want to see. Your fixed beliefs leave no room for learning or adapting to REALITY as it unfolds. Bush is the same. Bush does not, or rather, REFUSES TO, accept the REALITY of Iraq and the holocaust occurring.

The poor souls have inadequate water, medical care, sewage, safety, professional services of any kind, the list is endless.

In a development just this morning, Iraq is banning Blackwater after they shot some civilians. I wonder how that will pan out.

Banning Blackwater might dampen Cheney's financial objectives while implementing the "soft partition," but that's a concept someone like anon could not even see, much less discuss.

Anon, maybe you should run for office. A guy just like you became president.

9/17/2007 12:16 PM  
Blogger x4mr said...

Wow, Liza, wrote what I just wrote without seeing your 12 PM post. Yes, exactly.

9/17/2007 12:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You just don't get it.

If we do not lose our will, like the democrats want to, Iraq will become a sovreign democracy in the middle east and be an example to the others. It will make peace with Israel, and then Syria can also make peace, and the violence will stop. Iran was close to democracy, to its people will then do it as well.

If we let the democrats have us chicken out, then what you say is happening will happen, and they won't be democracies. We are trying to free the world of dictatorships, and Saddam Hussein was one of the worst. Now thanks to us he is gone.

This notion that our Commander in Cheif would put soldiers in harms way for a company to make money is ridiculous. First of all, the generals wouldn't stand for it, and it is also against the constitution. In case you don't remember, GENIUSES, Bush takes an oath to protect the constitution in order to be president.

He is not going to break a sacred vow he took in front of the entire country and his God.

9/17/2007 1:11 PM  
Blogger Sirocco said...


Iraq may, or may not, become a sovereign democracy. Even if it does, however, on what basis do you feel Iran would then "make peace with Israel"? That seems like a really big leap of reasoning, with no actual support for it.

Since when is it our responsibility to free the world of despots? If it somehow has become our job, why start with Saddam? The only consistent reason is Iraq is important to our interests because it's in the mid-east, and the mid-east is important to us because of oil.

That is _not_ the same as saying we went into Iraq to make money for oil companies - but ignoring the significance of oil on our decision to intervene there is either naive or willfully stupid.

I'd have far more faith in the president if he didn't do things like ignore advice from his generals until he found one that said what he wanted to hear, then said "lets all listen to the generals".

Do I think Bush is intentionally making bad decisions? No, not really ... but do I think he HAS made disastrous decisions, and is now only worsening things by refusing to deal with the way things are rather than the way he wants to to be? Yes, absolutely.

While he's continuing to make a bad situation worse, how many thousands of Americans will be killed or injured?

9/17/2007 1:36 PM  
Anonymous dustin said...

I have to say sirocco summed up the way I feel about all this pretty well. I would like to touch on a few other things in addition. I do not agree with the idea that our will has anything to do with success or failure at this point. I know there is this idea floating around out there that if we maintain our poker face, all the terrorists will turn tail and hide.

I feel that the "saddam was a bad guy" argument would be more credible if advanced from the get go. It was not. I think Iraq is going to run it's course the way it will regardless of our presence there. Leaving has nothing to do with bravery or cowardice, but with pragmatism.

9/17/2007 2:50 PM  
Blogger Liza said...

We went to Iraq because Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. In fact, we found some but no one wants to report it. We also went to liberate the Iraqi people who absolutely love America and want us to stay forever. The Iraqis want Exxon to find all the oil for them. They love Exxon. And, George Bush is a great man and historians will recognize this and his head will be on Mount Rushmore when future Americans realize how great he is.

Did I miss anything? Oh, yeah, Fox News rocks.

You need to get out more, anon.

9/17/2007 3:47 PM  
Blogger AZW88 said...

Hey Anonymous,

What give you the idea that Iraq will become a democracy? History? Hardly!

Iraq is headed for a major civil war, the sides are too far apart ideologically to ever agree to share power for very long. Only dividing Iraq into 3 separate countries has a slim chance of seeing anything resembling a democracy, and only one or two of those separate states would even have a notion of democracy, the radical Shiite territory would quickly become a fundamentalist islamic state ala Iran. The Sunni and Kurd areas would have a shot at democracy, but they would be quite unstable democracies, as they both would face serious outside threats, Kurds from the Sunnis, and Shias, not to forget Turkey (which has threatened to invade any independent Kurdish state). The Sunnis would be under constat pressure from within and outside from fundamentalists.

No, democracy is not in the cards for Iraq. All that remains to be seen is how many American soldiers killed will it take for this government (Congress, Bush, the Pentagon) to realize the futility of being there.

9/17/2007 3:53 PM  
Blogger x4mr said...

My reaction is about the same as Liza's, but I can't dismiss this sense that anon is actually the Navigator jerking our chain. The last anon post was SO bad, especially the bit about the constitution in light of what has occurred.

If this is your way to get even for the "Do Not Click" incident, fess up.

If you are serious, consider that you embarrass yourself before people so far ahead of you that it is painful to witness.

Imagine a six year old arguing that when people mention the holocaust they refer to the price of a holo at Toys-R-Us.

You're worse.

9/17/2007 4:36 PM  
Anonymous The Navigator said...

I am innocent. Your anon is either a troll or an idiot. Unfortunately, I fear the latter.

For a sobering assessment of the stupidity of the general population, have you watched any network television?

They design those shows to maximize viewers.

I have not forgotten the "Do Not Click" blogger violence you inflicted on the innocent, and the psychological scars remain.

9/17/2007 7:11 PM  

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